Posts by stan livedeath

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Let's talk about Blood again....

by stuckinarut2 in

i know we have all talked about this topic before, but for some new ones on the forum, or to refresh ourselves, i wanted to start this thread.. the society likes to go on about the sacredness of blood, and how it should not be transfused etc.. they liken it to a symbol of life itself.

something that should be respected and therefore not transfused.. but, what is more important: real life, or a symbol of life?.

an illustration came to mind.. if we give a bunch of flowers to a loved one as a symbol of our love for them, are those flowers more important than the love itself?

stan livedeath

it was the blood issue that got me out of the cult. back in the day--the society "suggested" we each make our minds over about this.

well--in 1971 my-then wife--a born in--was preggy with our first. i thought long and hard about the blood transusion issue should it turn out that way. i realised i could never risk my child--or my wife's life--even if god commanded it it was then i faced the fact i did not believe in god anyway--and therefore had no business being a witness..

i remember the day i quit. i was supposed to do the sunday public talk that afternoon. a phone call--and a visit to our congregation overseer--a former branch servant i had a lot of time for---i explained my feelings to him--and he suggested i back right out for a while--and think it all over. he did my talk that afternoon.

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Trouble in paradise!

by Confusedalot in

just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.

will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?

if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?

stan livedeath

dont worry--the watchtower is full of shit.

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Chapter 23 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

by new boy in

jw
friends

chapter 23.

in 1970 i saw a move that changed my life forever.

which looking back, would have been a total blessing from god.

stan livedeath

pale.emperor16 minutes ago17 minutes ago

Sounds like a lot of misfits end up in Bethel (excluding you new boy).

This would all make a great sitcom.

the whole jw cult is one great big sitcom. if a film were made about it--not that many joe publics would watch it--no one would believe it. total farce.

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My return to the WT...a terrible mistake

by JustHuman14 in

i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.

being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.

new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".

stan livedeath

human 14--you have decided to go back--? so--not reinstated yet then ?

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My return to the WT...a terrible mistake

by JustHuman14 in

i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.

being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.

new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".

stan livedeath

so --are you still df--or have you been re-instated?

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Trouble in paradise!

by Confusedalot in

just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.

will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?

if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?

stan livedeath

why still have meetings in this paradise earth? its very existence will prove god--and the watchtower--were right all along. it will be just one big congregation.

no cars--therefore no need for roads. no colleges or universities. or hospitals. or police. or doctors. or nurses.

in a few generations mankind really will have reverted back to the stone age. this will make jehovah happy.

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Chapter 23 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

by new boy in

jw
friends

chapter 23.

in 1970 i saw a move that changed my life forever.

which looking back, would have been a total blessing from god.

stan livedeath

i read catch-22 many years ago--its a bit like Franz' book crisis------you have to get t the first half out of the way....--then the second half begins to make sense. if that makes sense.

reading these Bethel stories--i cant believe how anyone could stay there for more than a few hours....

i only ever new one bethel boy--here in the UK. this was back in the 70's. apparently he ran the pioneer desk--? whatever that was--but quit and returned home--to the Isle of Wight--where i live. he is / was a well known character here.

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An opportunity for ex Jehovah's Witnesses survivors of domestic violence, to tell their story to the media

by jw news 2017 in

for *australian* exjws who have stories of domestic violence, use email in this story to share.

(link: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-18/shattering-silence-surviving-domestic-violence-in-church/8788902) mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-1.

stan livedeath

snugglebunny3 hours ago3 hours ago

I was on the receiving end of violence from my first wife. She was a born-in and had absolutely no boundaries at all once she became angry. Her whole family were that way inclined although she was by far the worst. Eventually, our neighbours who were also witnesses reported the matter to the elders having heasrd her screaming. They came to visit just as I was sporting some deep facial scratches. They sat me down and read me Scriptures about how I must keep her in subjection. Oh boy.

were we married to the same woman ?

my first wife( born in 3rd gen) used to provoke arguments with me--and go into a sulk for days if she didnt get her own way. this usually ended with her attacking me--such as a full punch on my nose while i was asleep....also a thrust with a long kitchen knife --which i sidestepped and it went through the door behind me.

this usually resulted in a full on scrap--ending in violent sex--which i realised years later was what she wanted anyway.

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Jah Jireh Care Homes

by pale.emperor in

http://www.jah-jireh.org/.

they have care homes in england and wales: wigan, leyland, blackpool, methyr.and one in canada http://www.jah-jireh.on.ca/.

these are not funded or subsidized by watchtower.

stan livedeath

darkspilver43 minutes agoan hour ago

Yes snugglebunny - sad but true.

I was surprised (annoyed even?) when stan livedeath made his comment above - especially as he mentioned earlier in this same thread that his wife apparently works as a senior carer in a care home

annoyed even ? ..... tough!

what has my wifes job got to do with care home fees? where she works its £600 a week--for self funders. they also take council funded residents as well...but i dont know the fees charged to the council.

BUT--bear in mind a lot of homes struggle to find self funders. my late father paid his own--i negotiated £1900 a month--he was there 3 years and got excellent care NOT a jar jireh place either

so they rely on council funded clients to fill beds. self funders are the icing on the cake.

by the way--for what its worth--my ex wife was also in the care profession--in fact the registered manager of a 20 bedded place. so i have a fair hearsay understanding of how care home economics work.

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Jah Jireh Care Homes

by pale.emperor in

http://www.jah-jireh.org/.

they have care homes in england and wales: wigan, leyland, blackpool, methyr.and one in canada http://www.jah-jireh.on.ca/.

these are not funded or subsidized by watchtower.

stan livedeath

on the balance of probability--i would think the majority of elderly dubs in the UK are "poor"---just getting by on the state pension. so--when they go into care--its most likely the care home fees will be paid by the local authority ( the council ). so--in the case of these jah jireh homes--yes--a very profitable business. good supply of new customers---fees guaranteed. good supply of staff--no doubt on the minimum wage. thank goodness the regulatory authority--CQC--has teeth !